Ben:欢迎回到 Vocafy《真实生活中的语言》。我是 Ben,Clara 也再次和我一起。今天要聊的这门语言,横跨世界上极为广阔的区域——从北非大西洋沿岸到阿拉伯半岛,乃至更远的地方。

Ben: Welcome back to Vocafy Language in Real Life. I'm Ben, here again with Clara. Today we're looking at a language spoken across a huge part of the world, from the Atlantic coast of North Africa to the Arabian Peninsula and beyond.

阿拉伯语。

Arabic.

不过 Clara,说一个人“会说阿拉伯语”,并不一定能说明对方具体说的是哪种阿拉伯语。

But Clara, saying someone "speaks Arabic" doesn't always tell us exactly what Arabic they speak.

Clara:从这里讲起再合适不过了。

Clara: That's the perfect place to start.

阿拉伯语有一点对学习者来说很特别。它有一种广泛共通的标准形式,但各地的日常口语可能相差很大。

Arabic has something unusual for learners. There is a widely shared standard form, but everyday speech can vary greatly from one place to another.

摩洛哥的一段对话,听起来可能与埃及、黎巴嫩或伊拉克的对话截然不同,尽管说话者都可能把自己的语言称为阿拉伯语。

A conversation in Morocco might sound very different from one in Egypt, Lebanon or Iraq, even though the speakers may all describe what they speak as Arabic.

Ben:那么,阿拉伯语究竟是一种语言,还是一组语言?

Ben: So is Arabic actually one language or a group of languages?

Clara:这正是有趣之处。

Clara: That's where things become interesting.

这个问题没有简单的答案,因为“语言”和“方言”并不只是纯粹的语言学标签,历史、文化和身份认同同样重要。

There isn't one simple answer, because "language" and "dialect" aren't purely linguistic labels. History, culture and identity matter too.

大多数使用者都认为自己说的是阿拉伯语,而连接整个地区的,则是一种共通的书面语和正式用语。

Most speakers see themselves as speaking Arabic, and there is a shared written and formal language connecting the region.

与此同时,各种日常口语变体在发音、词汇和语法上也可能存在显著差异。

At the same time, the everyday spoken varieties can differ substantially in pronunciation, vocabulary and grammar.

语言学家通常把这种情况称为“双言现象”。

Linguists often discuss this situation using the term diglossia.

Ben:这个术语听起来可比背后的概念复杂多了。

Ben: That's one of those words that sounds much more complicated than the idea behind it.

这里的“双言现象”是什么意思?

What does diglossia mean here?

Clara:简单来说,就是同一种语言的不同形式会用于不同目的。

Clara: In the simplest version, it means that different forms of a language are used for different purposes.

阿拉伯语有一种主要用于书写和正式交流的标准形式,而人们通常从小在家里说当地的口语变体。

Arabic has a standard form used especially for writing and formal communication, while people usually grow up speaking a local variety at home.

如今,这种标准形式通常称为现代标准阿拉伯语,也就是 MSA。

The standard form today is usually called Modern Standard Arabic, or MSA.

不过,有个关键点。

But there's an important detail.

现实并不是整整齐齐分成两个框,一个标着“MSA”,另一个标着“方言”。

It isn't really a neat world with two boxes, one labelled MSA and the other labelled dialect.

Ben:为什么不是?

Ben: Why not?

Clara:因为真实的语言使用要复杂得多。

Clara: Because real speech is much messier.

人们会根据场合,在较正式和较口语化的表达之间切换,也可能把标准语特征与本地口语元素混合使用。

People can move between more formal and more conversational language depending on the situation. They may mix standard features with elements of their local speech.

大学讨论、电视采访或政治辩论,听起来可能比朋友间的对话更正式,但未必会变成纯粹的教科书式 MSA。

A university discussion, a television interview or a political debate might sound more formal than a conversation between friends, without necessarily becoming pure textbook MSA.

所以,把它想象成一条连续谱通常更合适。

So it's often better to imagine a spectrum.

一端是高度正式的标准阿拉伯语,另一端是非常本地化的日常口语,而人们可以在两端之间灵活移动。

At one end you have highly formal Standard Arabic. At the other you have very local everyday speech. And people can move around between them.

Ben:先从正式的这一端说起吧。

Ben: Let's start with the formal end.

现代标准阿拉伯语究竟是什么?

What exactly is Modern Standard Arabic?

Clara:MSA 是以古典阿拉伯语为基础、与其高度接近的现代标准化形式。

Clara: MSA is the modern standardized form of Arabic closely based on Classical Arabic.

学习者会在大多数正式书面文本中接触到它,比如书籍、报纸、官方文件和大量教育材料。

It is the language learners encounter in most formal writing. You'll see it in books, newspapers, official documents and much educational material.

在新闻播报、事先准备好的演讲、纪录片及其他正式场合中,也能听到它的不同形式。

You'll also hear forms of it in news broadcasts, prepared speeches, documentaries and other formal settings.

它的一大优势,是为阿拉伯语世界提供了一种广泛共通的书面语言。

One of its great strengths is that it gives the Arabic-speaking world a broadly shared written language.

Ben:也就是说,摩洛哥人和阿曼人可以阅读同一篇报纸文章。

Ben: So someone in Morocco and someone in Oman could read the same newspaper article.

Clara:没错,前提是双方都熟练掌握标准阿拉伯语。

Clara: Exactly, assuming both have a good command of Standard Arabic.

但这并不代表平时在早餐桌上也会这样说话。

But that doesn't mean they normally speak that way over breakfast.

孩子通常从小使用家人和所在社区的阿拉伯语变体,而标准阿拉伯语则会通过学校教育、阅读、媒体和正式生活变得越来越重要。

Children typically grow up speaking the Arabic variety of their family and community. Standard Arabic becomes much more important through school, reading, media and formal life.

Ben:所以,MSA 通常不是孩子最先从父母那里学会的语言。

Ben: So MSA isn't normally the language a child first learns from their parents.

Clara:没错。

Clara: Right.

这也是阿拉伯语让学习者感到特别的原因之一。

That's one reason Arabic can feel unusual to learners.

想象一下:学英语时,却发现书本、新闻和学校使用的语言,与人们和家人自然交谈时使用的语言明显不同。

Imagine learning English, but discovering that the language of books, news and school is noticeably different from the language people naturally use with their families.

这个类比并不完全准确,但能让人感受到其中的距离。

The comparison isn't perfect, but it gives you a sense of the distance involved.

Ben:那么,阿拉伯语世界不同地区之间的这种距离,究竟能有多大?

Ben: And how large can that distance become between different parts of the Arabic-speaking world?

Clara:可以相当大。

Clara: Quite large.

阿拉伯语大致可分为埃及、黎凡特、海湾、伊拉克和马格里布等主要变体,而每一种之下又有许多地区和地方差异。

There are broad groups such as Egyptian, Levantine, Gulf, Iraqi and Maghrebi Arabic, and within those there are many more regional and local differences.

相邻地区的变体通常比较容易互相听懂,而相距遥远的地区之间,理解起来可能困难得多。

Neighbouring varieties are often relatively easy for speakers to understand, while varieties from distant regions can be much harder.

但地理位置并不是唯一因素。

But geography isn't the only factor.

接触程度也很重要。

Exposure matters too.

如果多年来一直通过电视、音乐或网络媒体接触某种变体,对它的理解程度可能远高于单看地理距离所能预料的。

If you've spent years hearing a particular variety in television, music or online media, you may understand it much better than geographical distance alone would suggest.

Ben:这就说到埃及了。

Ben: Which brings us to Egypt.

这个故事的最初版本,大概会把埃及阿拉伯语称为阿拉伯世界的“非官方通用语”。

The original version of this story would probably call Egyptian Arabic the unofficial common language of the Arab world.

这种说法是不是有点过头了?

Is that going too far?

Clara:是有点夸张,不过背后确实有一个重要事实。

Clara: Yes, but there's an important truth behind it.

在二十世纪,埃及对阿拉伯语流行文化产生了极为深远的影响。

Egypt had an enormous influence on Arabic-language popular culture during the twentieth century.

埃及电影、歌曲、广播节目和电视节目传遍整个地区。因此,即使许多人自己不说埃及阿拉伯语,也对它十分熟悉。

Egyptian films, songs, radio programmes and television travelled throughout the region. As a result, Egyptian Arabic became familiar to huge numbers of people who didn't speak it themselves.

Ben:也就是说,有人能听懂埃及阿拉伯语,部分原因是从小看埃及电影。

Ben: So someone might understand Egyptian Arabic partly because they grew up watching Egyptian movies.

Clara:正是如此。

Clara: Exactly.

这是媒体如何改变不同语言变体之间相互理解程度的绝佳例子。

It's a great example of how media can change mutual understanding between language varieties.

埃及阿拉伯语并没有取代其他国家的本地口语,不同地区的人见面时,也不会自动改用埃及阿拉伯语。

Egyptian Arabic didn't replace the local speech of other countries, and people from different regions don't automatically switch to Egyptian when they meet.

但数十年的流行文化传播,让它成为辨识度最高、最广为人知的阿拉伯语口语形式之一。

But decades of popular culture made it one of the most widely recognised spoken forms of Arabic.

Ben:如果两位阿拉伯语使用者不太容易听懂彼此的本地口语,会怎么办?

Ben: What happens when two Arabic speakers don't easily understand each other's local speech?

Clara:会主动调整。

Clara: They adapt.

可能会避开地方色彩特别浓的表达,使用预计对方能理解的词汇,也可能转向更普遍易懂的形式,或加入一些标准阿拉伯语元素。

They might avoid strongly local expressions. They may use vocabulary they expect the other person to recognise. They can move toward more widely understood forms or bring in elements of Standard Arabic.

具体采用什么策略,取决于说话者、各自的背景以及当时的场合。

The exact strategy depends on the speakers, their backgrounds and the situation.

这也再次说明,简单的“MSA 对方言”模式并不能真正反映现实。

That's another reason the simple picture of "MSA versus dialect" doesn't quite capture real life.

Ben:接下来看看几乎每位学习者都会立刻注意到的部分。

Ben: Let's look at something that almost every learner notices immediately.

书写系统。

The writing system.

Clara:阿拉伯语从右向左书写,字母还会根据它在单词中的位置改变形状。

Clara: Arabic is written from right to left, and its letters change shape depending on where they appear in a word.

刚开始可能看起来很难,但这个系统其实远比表面上更有规律。

That can look difficult at first, but the system is much more regular than it may appear.

大多数字母会与前后的字母相连,因此阿拉伯语书写呈现出流畅连贯的外观,让人一眼就能认出来。

Most letters connect to the letters around them, so written Arabic has that flowing appearance that makes it instantly recognisable.

还有一个特点也常让学习者感到意外。

There is another feature that surprises learners too.

普通文本通常不会写出短元音。

Short vowels are often not written in ordinary texts.

Ben:那怎么知道一个词该怎么读?

Ben: So how do people know what the word says?

Clara:主要根据词汇、语法和上下文来判断。

Clara: Mostly from vocabulary, grammar and context.

需要时可以添加额外的元音符号,这些符号在儿童读物、宗教文本和学习材料中尤其有用。

Extra vowel marks can be added when needed, and they're especially useful in children's books, religious texts and materials for learners.

不过,有经验的读者阅读普通文本时通常不需要这些符号。

But experienced readers usually don't need them for ordinary text.

Ben:听起来很难。

Ben: That sounds difficult.

Clara:刚开始确实可能有些难。

Clara: At first it can be.

但阿拉伯语也为学习者提供了另一个理解词汇的有力线索,那就是它的词根和词型系统。

But Arabic also gives learners another powerful clue to vocabulary, and that's its system of roots and patterns.

许多阿拉伯语单词都围绕一个由三个辅音组成的词根构成。

Many Arabic words are built around a root containing three consonants.

一个经典例子是 K-T-B,它与“书写”有关。

A classic example is K-T-B, which is associated with writing.

这个词族中有 kitaab,意为“书”;kaatib,意为“作家”;maktab,意为“办公室”或“书桌”;以及 maktaba,意为“图书馆”或“书店”。

From this family you get words such as kitaab for book, kaatib for writer, maktab for office or desk, and maktaba for library or bookshop.

Ben:这是我最喜欢的阿拉伯语特点之一。

Ben: That's one of my favourite features of Arabic.

一旦认出 K-T-B,这些词看起来就不再毫无关联了。

Once you recognise K-T-B, those words stop looking completely unrelated.

Clara:正是如此。

Clara: Exactly.

不过,别把它当成一种能让人自动猜出所有单词的密码。

You shouldn't think of it as a code that lets you automatically guess every word.

语言从不会这么配合。

Language is never quite that cooperative.

但词根确实能把大量阿拉伯语词汇整理成一个个词族。

But roots help organise a huge amount of Arabic vocabulary into families.

当学习者开始在陌生单词中认出熟悉的词根时,这门语言就会显得规律得多。

Once learners start recognising familiar roots inside unfamiliar words, the language can begin to feel much less random.

Ben:然后还有语音。

Ben: And then there are the sounds.

阿拉伯语一直以发音困难著称。

Arabic has a reputation for being difficult to pronounce.

Clara:它确实包含几个英语母语者不习惯的音。

Clara: It does contain several sounds that English speakers aren't used to.

一个著名的例子,就是阿拉伯字母 ayn 所表示的音。

One famous example is the sound represented by the Arabic letter ayn.

阿拉伯语中还有一些辅音对立,学习者刚开始听时可能觉得非常相似,但对母语者来说,它们能区分不同的单词。

Arabic also has consonant contrasts that can initially sound very similar to learners but distinguish words for native speakers.

难点并不只是偶尔成功发出一次陌生的音。

The challenge isn't simply producing an unusual sound once.

还需要学会稳定地听出差别,再在单词和句子中自然地发出这些音。

You have to learn to hear the difference reliably and then produce it naturally inside words and sentences.

Ben:不同地区变体的发音也会有所不同吗?

Ben: Does pronunciation vary between the regional varieties too?

Clara:差异非常明显。

Clara: Very much so.

同一个书面字母,在阿拉伯语世界的不同地区可能有不同的读音。

The same written letter can be pronounced differently in different parts of the Arabic-speaking world.

这也给了学习者另一个充分的理由:要弄清楚自己听的是哪种变体。

That gives learners another good reason to know which variety they're listening to.

并不存在一种放之四海而皆准、只等着大家掌握的日常阿拉伯语口音。

There isn't just one universal everyday Arabic accent waiting to be mastered.

Ben:这就说到了本期节目中可能最重要的实际问题。

Ben: And that brings us to probably the biggest practical question in the entire episode.

如果今天决定学阿拉伯语,究竟应该学什么?

If I decide today that I want to learn Arabic, what should I actually learn?

学 MSA,还是某一种口语变体?

MSA or one of the spoken varieties?

Clara:最合适的答案简单得让人有点无奈。

Clara: The best answer is frustratingly simple.

这取决于学习目标。

It depends on what you want to do.

如果想阅读报纸和书籍、收看正式新闻、处理阿拉伯语书面内容,或在正式场合跨国交流,MSA 就非常有价值。

If you want to read newspapers and books, follow formal news, work with written Arabic or communicate across countries in formal contexts, MSA is extremely valuable.

如果准备搬到约旦,主要目标是在咖啡馆、商店和日常生活中与人交谈,那么黎凡特阿拉伯语口语马上就能派上用场。

If you're moving to Jordan and your main goal is talking to people in cafés, shops and everyday life, spoken Levantine Arabic will be immediately useful.

如果住在开罗,埃及阿拉伯语自然就是日常交流的首选。

If you're living in Cairo, Egyptian Arabic becomes the obvious everyday choice.

Ben:所以,MSA 并不是一把能自动开启所有对话的万能钥匙。

Ben: So MSA isn't the master key that automatically unlocks every conversation.

Clara:没错。

Clara: Exactly.

它让人能够接触阿拉伯语中共通而且极其重要的部分,尤其是书面语和正式用语。

It gives you access to a shared and enormously important part of Arabic, especially the written and formal language.

但掌握 MSA,并不代表会自动听懂每个国家语速很快的日常对话。

But knowing MSA doesn't automatically mean you'll understand rapid everyday conversation in every country.

反过来也一样。

The reverse is also true.

只学习一种本地变体的人,可能在当地沟通得非常顺畅,却仍然觉得正式书面语很难。

Someone who learns only one local variety may communicate very well in that region while still finding formal writing difficult.

Ben:学习者必须二选一,完全忽略另一种吗?

Ben: Do learners have to choose one and ignore the other?

Clara:完全不必。

Clara: Not at all.

对许多希望深入学习的人来说,在学习一种口语变体的同时掌握一些 MSA,非常合理。

For many serious learners, learning some MSA alongside one spoken variety makes a lot of sense.

可以通过 MSA 学习字母、阅读和更广泛的正式词汇,同时逐步提高对生活中最相关变体的听说能力。

You might learn the script, reading and broader formal vocabulary through MSA while gradually building your listening and speaking skills in the variety most relevant to your life.

两者各自投入多少精力,可以随着目标而调整。

How much attention you give each one can change with your goals.

Ben:这比要求所有人先学两年 MSA,然后才开始学习人们实际如何说话,要现实得多。

Ben: That feels more realistic than saying everyone should spend two years on MSA and only then start learning how people actually talk.

Clara:现实得多。

Clara: Much more realistic.

不存在一条适合所有学习者的唯一正确路线。

There isn't one correct route for every learner.

研究阿拉伯文学的人,与准备搬到贝鲁特的人需求不同;而这两类人,又与只想和亲戚交流的人需求不同。

Someone studying Arabic literature has different needs from someone moving to Beirut, and both have different needs from someone who simply wants to speak with relatives.

重要的是从一开始就明白,阿拉伯语有不同的形式,用于不同的目的。

The important thing is to understand from the beginning that Arabic has different forms serving different purposes.

这样一来,就能提前规划如何应对这些差异,而不会等到后来才感到意外。

Then the variation becomes something you can plan for rather than something that surprises you later.

Ben:这就回到了本期的标题。

Ben: Which brings us back to our title.

一种语言,千种声音。

One language, a thousand voices.

Clara:没错。

Clara: Exactly.

当然,“千种”是一种诗意的说法,但背后的理念很重要。

The "thousand" is poetic, of course, but the idea matters.

阿拉伯语拥有强大的共通传统和广泛使用的标准形式,而日常口语则反映了使用者横跨的广阔地域及其丰富多样性。

Arabic has a powerful shared tradition and a widely used standard form, while everyday speech reflects the enormous geography and diversity of the people who use it.

这两者并不互相否定。

Those two things don't cancel each other out.

它们都是阿拉伯语的一部分。

They're both part of Arabic.

Ben:所以,真正有趣的问题或许并不是:阿拉伯语究竟是一种语言,还是暗中隐藏着多种语言。

Ben: So perhaps the interesting question isn't whether Arabic is really one language or secretly many languages.

Clara:我也这么认为。

Clara: I think that's right.

对学习者而言,更有用的问题是:它的不同形式如何彼此连接。

For a learner, the more useful question is how its different forms connect.

报纸上读到的语言、正式演讲中听到的语言、埃及电影里看到的语言,以及在安曼交谈时使用的语言,听起来可能各不相同。

The language you read in a newspaper, hear in a formal speech, watch in an Egyptian film and use in a conversation in Amman may not sound the same.

但它们也并非互不相通的孤立世界。

But they're not isolated worlds either.

学习阿拉伯语,就是逐渐学会如何在这片语言图景中穿行。

Learning Arabic means gradually learning how to move through that landscape.

Ben:这样一来,复杂性突然不再像是问题,反而成了这门语言引人入胜的原因之一。

Ben: And suddenly the complexity starts looking less like a problem and more like part of what makes the language interesting.

Clara:正是如此。

Clara: Exactly.

不必学会每一种变体。

You don't need to learn every variety.

需要明确为什么学习阿拉伯语,选择一个实用的起点,并明白随着学习深入,这门语言会朝不同方向逐渐展开。

You need to know why you're learning Arabic, choose a useful place to begin, and understand that the language will open up in different directions as you go.

Ben:我觉得,这个答案比寻找一种走到哪里都管用的神奇阿拉伯语要好得多。

Ben: I think that's a much better answer than looking for one magical version of Arabic that works everywhere.

Clara,谢谢你和我们一起深入解读。

Clara, thanks for helping us unpack it.

Clara:很高兴能一起聊,Ben。

Clara: My pleasure, Ben.

Ben:也感谢每一位听众。下次 Vocafy《真实生活中的语言》再见。

Ben: And thanks to everyone listening. We'll see you next time on Vocafy Language in Real Life.