本:欢迎回到《Vocafy 真实生活中的语言》。我是本。今天将前往东亚,探索一门令许多学习者着迷、初见时又颇具压迫感的语言——日语。
Ben: Welcome back to Vocafy Language in Real Life. I'm Ben. And today we're heading to East Asia to explore a language that fascinates a lot of learners—and can look fairly intimidating the first time you see it. Japanese.
平时和我搭档的克拉拉今天不在,所以请来了萨拉。欢迎来到节目。
My usual co-host Clara is away, so today I'm joined by Sarah. Welcome to the show.
萨拉:你好,本。很高兴来到这里。
Sarah: Hi Ben. It's great to be here.
没错,日语一登场就很有冲击力。如果平时习惯使用拉丁字母,哪怕再普通不过的一句日语,看上去也像是把好几套书写系统混在了一起。
And yes, Japanese can make quite an entrance. If you're used to the Latin alphabet, even a completely ordinary Japanese sentence can look like several writing systems have been mixed together.
本:某种意义上还真是这样。先是复杂的字符,接着是弯弯曲曲的符号,然后又出现线条更锐利、棱角更分明的符号。学习日语,难道基本上就是要学三套字母表吗?
Ben: Which, in a way, they have. You've got these complex characters, then curvy symbols, then sharper, more angular ones. Are Japanese learners basically learning three alphabets?
萨拉:不完全是。日语通常会同时使用三种文字,不过它们各有不同的作用。
Sarah: Not quite. Japanese normally uses three scripts together, but they have different roles.
第一种是汉字。历史上,这些字符源自中国的文字体系,不过日语在数百年间对它们进行了调整和发展。汉字与词义联系紧密,常用于书写词语的重要部分,比如名词,以及许多动词和形容词的词干。
The first is Kanji. These characters came historically from Chinese writing, although Japanese has adapted them over many centuries. Kanji are strongly connected with meaning and are often used for important parts of words—things like nouns and the main part of many verbs and adjectives.
例如,“山”这个汉字读作 yama,意思就是“山”。
For example, 山 is the kanji for yama, "mountain."
本:所以这就是看起来很复杂的部分。
Ben: So that's the complicated-looking part.
萨拉:通常是的。汉字需要花时间学习,其中一个原因就是同一个字可能会因词语和语境不同而有多个读音。
Sarah: Usually, yes. And one reason kanji take time to learn is that a character can have more than one reading depending on the word and context.
然后是平假名。它的符号表示较小的语音单位,大致对应日语口语中的节拍。平假名承担了大量语法功能,助词、动词词尾,以及许多不用汉字书写的词都会用到它。
Then there is Hiragana. Its symbols represent small sound units—roughly the rhythmic beats of Japanese speech. Hiragana does a lot of grammatical work. You'll see it in particles, verb endings and many words that aren't written with kanji.
最后是片假名。它表示的基本语音与平假名相同,但使用另一套符号。片假名尤其常用于外来词、外国人名和某些强调表达。
And finally there's Katakana, which represents the same basic set of sounds but uses a different set of symbols. It's especially common for foreign loanwords, foreign names and certain kinds of emphasis.
本:所以这三套系统并不是相互竞争,而是各司其职。
Ben: So the three systems aren't competing with each other. They divide up the work.
萨拉:没错。
Sarah: Exactly.
以一句关于喝咖啡的简单句子为例。核心的日语词汇可能使用汉字,语法词尾和助词使用平假名,而 kōhī,也就是“咖啡”,通常用片假名书写。
Take a simple sentence about drinking coffee. The core Japanese words might use kanji, grammatical endings and particles appear in hiragana, and kōhī—coffee—is normally written in katakana.
刚开始时,这种混合看起来很混乱。一旦了解不同文字分别承担什么作用,它们反而会开始为理解句子提供线索。
At first that mixture looks chaotic. Once you know what the different scripts are doing, it starts giving you clues about the sentence.
本:这么一说,已经没那么吓人了。
Ben: That's already much less frightening.
不过接下来就是语法。日语最著名的特点之一,就是把动词放在句末。
But then we get to grammar. Japanese is famous for putting the verb at the end.
萨拉:这是英语母语者最容易注意到的差异之一。
Sarah: That's one of the biggest differences English speakers notice.
英语通常采用“主语—动词—宾语”的语序,比如“我吃一个苹果”。
English usually follows Subject-Verb-Object. "I eat an apple."
日语则通常被描述为“主语—宾语—动词”语序。因此可以说:
Japanese is commonly described as Subject-Object-Verb. So you can get
「私はりんごを食べます」
「私はりんごを食べます」
Watashi wa ringo o tabemasu。
Watashi wa ringo o tabemasu.
非常粗略地说,就是:“说到我,苹果,吃。”
Very roughly, "As for me, apple eat."
关键在于,主要谓语通常位于句末附近。
The important thing is that the main predicate normally comes toward the end.
本:但如果日语语序更灵活,人们怎么知道每个词分别起什么作用呢?
Ben: But if Japanese word order is more flexible, how do people know which word is doing what?
萨拉:这正是助词大显身手的地方。
Sarah: This is where particles become incredibly useful.
助词是放在词或短语之后的短小语法标记,用来说明它们在句子中的作用。
They're short grammatical markers that come after words or phrases and tell you something about their role.
在刚才的句子中,wa 把 watashi,也就是“我”,标记为话题;助词 o 则把 ringo,也就是“苹果”,标记为动词的宾语。
In our sentence, wa marks watashi—"I"—as the topic. The particle o marks ringo—"apple"—as the object of the verb.
可以把助词想成贴在句子各个部分上的小标签。
You can think of particles as little labels attached to parts of the sentence.
本:所以英语非常依赖词语的位置,而日语可以更多地依靠这些标签。
Ben: So English relies quite heavily on position. Japanese can rely more on these labels.
萨拉:这样理解很有帮助,不过日语的语序也不是完全自由的。
Sarah: That's a useful way to think about it, although Japanese word order isn't completely free.
学习者很快还会发现另一个区别:如果大家已经知道说的是什么,日语经常会省略某些成分。
And there's another difference that learners discover quite quickly. Japanese often leaves things out when everybody already knows what they are.
只要语境足够清楚,就不用不断重复“我”或“你”。
You don't have to keep saying "I" or "you" if the context makes it obvious.
本:听起来很高效,不过对初学者来说恐怕也很容易踩坑。
Ben: Which sounds efficient, but probably dangerous for a beginner.
萨拉:一开始确实如此。学习者常常会寻找主语,然后心想:“等等——主语去哪儿了?”
Sarah: At first, yes. Learners often search for the subject and think, "Wait—where did it go?"
但慢慢就会发现,对参与对话的人来说,那些被省略的信息其实并没有消失,而是已经可以从语境中理解。
But eventually you start noticing that the missing information isn't really missing for the people in the conversation. It's understood from context.
本:这正好引出了日语另一个著名的特点:礼貌表达。
Ben: That brings us nicely to another famous part of Japanese. Politeness.
人们经常听说敬语,也就是 Keigo。这套复杂的系统要求根据面前的人改变说话方式。
People often hear about Keigo, this complicated system where you have to change the way you speak depending on the person in front of you.
它到底有多复杂呢?
How dramatic is it really?
萨拉:这套系统确实存在,而且可以变得相当精细。
Sarah: The system is real, and it can become quite sophisticated.
日语有普通的礼貌体、用于抬高对方行为的尊敬语,以及在对方面前降低说话者一方姿态的谦让语。
Japanese has ordinary polite speech, respectful forms that elevate another person's actions, and humble forms that lower the speaker's own side in relation to someone else.
有时需要使用特殊词汇,有时则要采用特定的语法结构。
Sometimes that involves special vocabulary. Sometimes it involves grammatical patterns.
所以,和亲密朋友交谈时使用的日语,确实可能与面对客户、前辈同事或正式场合初次见面的人时明显不同。
So yes, the Japanese you use with a close friend can be noticeably different from the Japanese used with a customer, senior colleague or someone you're meeting formally.
本:也就是说,远不只是加上一个相当于“先生”的称呼。
Ben: So much more than adding the equivalent of "sir."
萨拉:当然不是。
Sarah: Definitely.
不过也不希望初学者觉得,每次对话都像走进了一片社交雷区。
But I wouldn't want beginners to imagine that every conversation is a social minefield.
早在完全掌握正式敬语之前,依靠基础的礼貌日语就已经能进行大量交流。甚至母语者也是进入职场后,才开始学习其中一些更正式的规范。
You can communicate a lot with basic polite Japanese long before you master formal keigo. Even native speakers learn some of the more formal conventions as they enter professional life.
而且语境很重要。年龄、熟悉程度、职业身份、具体场合,以及对方是否被视为自己圈子里的人,都会影响人们选择怎样的表达。
And context matters. Age, familiarity, professional role, the situation and whether someone is considered part of your own group can all affect the language people choose.
本:这可比简单地说“日本人非常有礼貌”有意思多了。
Ben: That's much more interesting than simply saying, "Japanese people are extremely polite."
萨拉:没错。每种语言都有礼貌表达,只不过日语以格外明显的方式,把一些社会关系差异语法化、惯例化了。
Sarah: Exactly. Politeness exists in every language. Japanese simply grammaticalises and conventionalises some social distinctions in particularly visible ways.
本:接下来再澄清另一件事。
Ben: Now let's clear up something else.
日语使用汉字,所以人们很自然地认为,日语和汉语一定是关系非常密切的语言。
Japanese uses Chinese characters, so people naturally assume Japanese and Chinese must be closely related languages.
真是这样吗?
Are they?
萨拉:不是。至少从同属一个语系的意义上来说,并非如此。
Sarah: No. Not in the sense of belonging to the same language family.
日语属于日本语系,其中还包括琉球诸语;汉语则属于汉藏语系。
Japanese belongs to the Japonic language family, which also includes the Ryukyuan languages. Chinese belongs to the Sino-Tibetan family.
两者的基本结构非常不同。
Their basic structures are very different.
不过,如果说它们之间的联系仅限于文字,同样会造成误解。
But saying that the connection ends with writing would also be misleading.
本:因为中国对日语的影响远不止文字?
Ben: Because China influenced Japanese much more broadly?
萨拉:影响大得多。
Sarah: Very much so.
日语不仅采用了汉字,数百年来还从汉语中借入了大量词汇。因此,现代日语中有一个庞大的汉语来源词汇层。
Japanese adopted Chinese characters and also borrowed a huge amount of vocabulary from Chinese over centuries. So modern Japanese contains a large layer of Sino-Japanese words.
这有点像拉丁语和法语对英语词汇产生的巨大影响,只不过日本的文字发展史让这种联系更加直观。
It's a little like the enormous influence Latin and French had on English vocabulary—except that in Japan the history of writing makes the connection even more visible.
所以,日语和汉语并不是谱系上的近亲,却拥有一段极其重要的文化与语言接触史。
So Japanese and Chinese aren't close genetic relatives, but they have an extremely important history of cultural and linguistic contact.
本:而且两者听起来也非常不同。
Ben: And they sound very different too.
汉语以声调著称。日语并不是同一意义上的声调语言,对吧?
Chinese languages are famous for tone. Japanese isn't a tonal language in quite the same way, right?
萨拉:对,不过这里有个重要的细节。
Sarah: Right, although there's an important detail.
在普通话等语言中,不同声调可以区分许多词。标准东京日语采用的则是通常所说的“音高重音系统”。
In languages such as Mandarin Chinese, different tone patterns can distinguish many words. Standard Tokyo Japanese instead has what's usually called a pitch-accent system.
音高仍然可以区分词义,但它的运作方式不同。
Pitch can still distinguish words, but the system works differently.
不过对初学者来说,日语发音也有一些友好的特点。它的元音系统相对精简;掌握假名后,书写形式与基本发音之间的对应关系,要比英语拼写与发音的对应关系规则得多。
For a beginner, though, Japanese pronunciation has some friendly features. It has a relatively small vowel system, and once you've learned kana, the relationship between writing and basic pronunciation is much more regular than English spelling.
本:所以日语发音容易吗?
Ben: So is Japanese pronunciation easy?
萨拉:与其简单地说“容易”,不如说基础部分比较容易上手。
Sarah: I'd say the basics are approachable rather than simply "easy."
学习者仍要适应长短音、促音、节奏和音高重音等特点,而这些差异都可能影响理解。
Learners still have to get used to things like long and short sounds, doubled consonants, rhythm and pitch accent. Those differences can matter.
但与书写系统相比,学习者往往会发现,自己很早就能说出让人听懂的日语发音。
But compared with the writing system, learners often find that they can start producing understandable Japanese sounds relatively early.
本:接着,日本似乎也投桃报李,从英语中借入了海量词汇。
Ben: And then Japan seems to return the favour by borrowing enormous numbers of English words.
萨拉:确实如此。
Sarah: It does.
现代日语从英语中借入了大量词汇,而这些词通常用片假名书写。
Modern Japanese has borrowed heavily from English, and these words usually appear in katakana.
不过,它们并不总是按照英语母语者预想的方式使用。
But they don't always behave exactly as an English speaker expects.
借词可能会改变发音、被缩短,甚至发展出新的含义。
A borrowed word can change its pronunciation, become shorter or even develop a new meaning.
比如 manshon,源自英语 mansion。在日语中,它通常指某类公寓或共管公寓楼,而不是一栋巨型豪宅。
Take manshon, from English "mansion." In Japanese it normally refers to a type of apartment or condominium building—not a giant luxury house.
本:这可能会带来一次相当令人失望的看房体验。
Ben: That could lead to a fairly disappointing property viewing.
萨拉:也可能会发现这座“豪宅”便宜得出奇。
Sarah: Or a surprisingly affordable mansion.
此外还有 wasei-eigo,也就是“和制英语”,字面意思是“日本制造的英语”。这些表达是在日本用看似英语的素材创造出来的。
And then there's wasei-eigo, literally "Japanese-made English." These are expressions created in Japan from English-looking material.
一个经典例子是 salaryman,指领取薪水的公司职员,传统上尤其指男性白领。
A classic example is salaryman, referring to a salaried company employee, traditionally especially a male white-collar worker.
它听起来像是普通英语里本该存在的词,但实际上是作为一种日语表达发展起来的。
It sounds as though it should be ordinary English, but the word developed as a Japanese expression.
本:所以日语即使借用了一个词,也不一定会让它原封不动。
Ben: So even when Japanese borrows, it doesn't necessarily leave the word untouched.
萨拉:没错。借用不等于照搬。语言会重塑外来成分,使其适应自身的语音系统、语法和文化。
Sarah: Exactly. Borrowing doesn't mean copying. Languages reshape things to fit their own sound system, grammar and culture.
本:日语词汇中还有一类总显得格外生动:那些听起来就像所描述事物的词。
Ben: There's another part of Japanese vocabulary that always seems incredibly expressive. All those words that sound like what they're describing.
萨拉:日语拥有极其丰富的拟声拟态词,也就是语音象征词。
Sarah: Japanese has a remarkably rich group of mimetic, or sound-symbolic, words.
其中一些确实就是英语使用者所说的拟声词。
Some really are what English speakers would call onomatopoeia.
例如,zaa-zaa 可以形容大雨倾泻的声音。
For example, zaa-zaa can describe the sound of heavy rain.
但日语的语音象征远不止实际存在的声音。
But Japanese sound symbolism goes much further than actual noises.
Kira-kira 可以形容某样东西闪闪发光。
Kira-kira can describe something glittering or sparkling.
Waku-waku 则用来形容期待某件事时,那种兴奋又雀跃的感觉。
And waku-waku describes that excited, expectant feeling when you're looking forward to something.
本:所以模仿的其实是根本不会发出声音的事物。
Ben: So you're imitating things that don't actually make a sound.
萨拉:正是如此。
Sarah: Exactly.
动作、质感、外观、身体感受和情绪,都有相应的拟态词。
There are mimetic words for movement, texture, appearance, physical sensations and emotions.
这也是它们如此令人难忘的原因之一。词语本身的声音,常常让人觉得与它所描述的体验紧密相连。
That's part of what makes them so memorable. The sound of the word often feels connected to the experience it's describing.
本:现在终于说到标题里的这句话了:「空気を読む」——kūki o yomu。
Ben: Now we finally come to the phrase in our title, 「空気を読む」—kūki o yomu.
字面意思就是“读空气”。
Literally, "read the air."
它实际上是什么意思呢?
What does that actually mean?
萨拉:自然的中文说法通常是“察言观色”或“看气氛”。
Sarah: A natural English equivalent would often be "read the room."
意思是留意现场的氛围、人与人之间的关系,以及那些没有被直接说出口的信息,并据此调整自己的行为。
It means noticing the mood, the relationships between people and the things that aren't being stated directly—and adjusting your behaviour accordingly.
想象一下正在参加会议。没有人明确说某个想法应该放弃,但从桌边众人的反应中可以感觉到,如果继续坚持,场面会很尴尬。
Imagine you're in a meeting. Nobody explicitly says that an idea should be dropped, but you can sense from the reactions around the table that continuing to push it would be awkward.
这就叫“读懂空气”。
You've read the air.
本:这也经常与日语是一种“高语境语言”的说法联系在一起。
Ben: And this is often connected to the idea that Japanese is a "high-context language."
萨拉:是的,不过使用这个说法时需要谨慎一些。
Sarah: Yes, although I'd be careful with that phrase.
有时人们会把日本文化描述为“高语境文化”,意思是人们相对更依赖共同情境和隐含信息。
You sometimes hear Japanese culture described as "high-context," meaning that people rely relatively heavily on shared circumstances and implicit information.
这可以作为一个有用的出发点,但它并不是日语语法的一条定律,更不意味着每个日本人都会间接地表达。
That can be a useful starting point, but it isn't a law of Japanese grammar, and it certainly doesn't mean every Japanese person communicates indirectly.
能够确定的是,语境在日语中确实非常重要。
What we can say is that context really does matter in Japanese.
主语和宾语在意思明确时经常被省略;适当的礼貌程度取决于彼此的关系和具体情境;而 kūki o yomu 这类表达也说明,留意没有说出口的社交信息,在日本文化中是很常见且重要的。
Subjects and objects are often omitted when they're obvious. The appropriate level of politeness depends on the relationship and situation. And expressions like kūki o yomu show that attention to unspoken social information is culturally familiar and important.
本:所以学习日语,并不是要发现日本人能通过某种方式用心灵感应交流。
Ben: So learning Japanese isn't about discovering that Japanese people somehow communicate telepathically.
萨拉:很遗憾,并不是。否则学语言就快多了。
Sarah: Unfortunately not. That would make language learning much quicker.
不过,慢慢会更习惯那些不必反复说出来的信息。
But you do gradually become more comfortable with information that doesn't need to be repeated.
刚开始时,学习者希望每个句子都明确说明谁对谁做了什么。
At first, a learner wants every sentence to tell them exactly who did what to whom.
后来,开始提出另一个问题:“结合这里发生的一切,哪些信息会自然地不言自明?”
Later, you start asking a different question. "Given everything that's happening here, what would naturally be understood?"
这是一个很有帮助的转变。
And that's a useful shift.
本:很喜欢这个说法。
Ben: I like that.
所以,日语起初看起来像一堵由陌生符号砌成的墙。但仔细观察后,就会发现不同文字各司其职;助词帮助组织句子;动词往往落在句末,为句子收尾;礼貌表达反映人与人之间的关系和所处情境;而语境则让人们不必重复大家早已理解的信息。
So Japanese begins with what looks like a wall of unfamiliar symbols. But once we look closer, the scripts have different jobs. Particles help organise the sentence. The verb tends to anchor the end. Politeness reflects relationships and situations. And context helps speakers avoid saying things that everyone already understands.
萨拉:没错。
Sarah: Exactly.
日语在某些方面确实很难。学习汉字需要时间,日语语法要求英语母语者换一种方式组织句子,正式用语也可能变得相当复杂。
Japanese is difficult in some very real ways. Learning kanji takes time. Grammar asks English speakers to build sentences differently. Formal language can become complicated.
但陌生并不等于没有逻辑。
But unfamiliar doesn't mean illogical.
一旦开始看见其中的规律,那张令人望而生畏的页面就会变成一套可以逐步学会阅读的系统。
Once you start seeing the patterns, that intimidating page becomes a system you can gradually learn to read.
最终,也许还能逐渐读懂字里行间的那一点“空气”。
And eventually, perhaps, you start reading a little of the air around it too.
本:用这句话收尾再合适不过了。
Ben: That's a perfect place to finish.
萨拉,感谢参加今天的节目。
Sarah, thank you for joining us.
萨拉:很高兴能来,本。
Sarah: It was my pleasure, Ben.
本:也感谢各位收听。下期《Vocafy 真实生活中的语言》再见。
Ben: And thanks to everyone listening. We'll see you next time on Vocafy Language in Real Life.